Urgent !! Please help.

[ferry_yanto]

I have bought a Irian aro. It size about 15cm. I prepare the aqua, 1 week water and I pour the black water. My aqua size is 50x35x40cm. It also have a pink lamp.

This morning my fish tail had broken. It's look like after fighting with fish, but I didn't have any fish, only this aro. Why did it can happened ? And how i cure my fish ? And how to prevent this thing in the future ?

I really need help now. THanks a lot..;(

[Hendri]

maybe ur aro jump...

it's ok... will recover later...

[GrandePunto]

maybe ur aro jump...

it's ok... will recover later...i agree wif u...........

[morphine]

You might want to check your water parameters, especially the pH . Both conditions of either alkalosis or acidosis could cause your fish to become very excited with fast darting movements and JUMPING to escape, and possibly broke off part of the tail as it knocked into some of the things you have decorated in your tank . If that turned out to be the case, then you should slowly adjusting the pH up or down accordingly .

Or it could just simply be that your fish is a timid one, and new to the environment . Brand new aro with small size such as your is proned to get excited easily and will do the sommersaults from times to times when there is/are sudden movements ,or lurking shadows outside of the tank . That could also be the cause ! Add some more extra black water extracts (as you had done it already) in this case, and limit movements around the tank to the minimum until your aro is well adapted, will help to calm your aro down and allow times for it to adjust to its new living environment .

It's really hard to exactly know what might had caused the tail broken off like that in your young aro, but those are some of the possibilites .

The broken tail will grow back completely in 4-6 months since your aro is still very young . In the mean times, adding salts and keep your tank water and filtration in top condition will definitely help to speed up the recovery process and limit any possible infection . Good luck .

[REDCLOUD]

Depends on how bad is the damage, if badly damaged tail may not grow back. Maybe you can post a picture.

[daniel]

I have bought a Irian aro. It size about 15cm. I prepare the aqua, 1 week water and I pour the black water. My aqua size is 50x35x40cm. It also have a pink lamp.

This morning my fish tail had broken. It's look like after fighting with fish, but I didn't have any fish, only this aro. Why did it can happened ? And how i cure my fish ? And how to prevent this thing in the future ?

I really need help now. THanks a lot..;(

Check the water parameters. Some aro under stress will have tail biting habit.

[ferry_yanto]

Some aro under stress will have tail biting habit.

What is tail biting habit ? I don't understand. Please tell me more about this habit.

Now my fish lose it's desire to eat. And so do I;( . But after I read from this forum and from the answer in this thread, I think I can calm down, because it won't die. But can you tell me how to avoid some thing like this happen in the future, because I gonna more stress if this thing happen to SR Aro. Thanks.

[REDCLOUD]

you have to first understand the cause.

1. What is the pH in your tank?
2. Do you have any tank mates?

Maybe you added in too much Black water causing your pH to crash.

So the sudden pH crash stressed out your aro. Because of this it became unstable and start to jump. pH should be adjusted slowly.

any body injury beside the broken tail?

check the pH. try and keep a pH of 6.8 - 7. do some water change and add in aged water to increass the pH if it's very low.

[REDCLOUD]

Add in some salt to help the healing

and please post a picture for the pros here to further understand the situation.

Just my newbie thinking

[kruk]

Add in some salt to help the healing

and please post a picture for the pros here to further understand the situation.

Just my newbie thinking

agree with u bro.....

[ferry_yanto]

This is my aro pics. Hope can help.
D:\image\ARO

[ferry_yanto]

Sorry, my aro pics in the galery. THanks:011:

[REDCLOUD]

Try and push your pH to 7.

you don't need to use Black Water. Jardin I don't think need black water.

The fins will heal with time. Just make sure water is clean and use a little salt to speed up healing.

good luck bro :)

[ferry_yanto]

Try and push your pH to 7.

you don't need to use Black Water. Jardin I don't think need black water.

The fins will heal with time. Just make sure water is clean and use a little salt to speed up healing.


I see, jardin doesn't need to use black water. Sorry, exactly what for the black water is? I don't know exactly. I only knew that black water help to maintain Ph water.

Okee, i will pour a little salt more to speed up healing process. And i will keep praying:011: . Thanks bro.

[vierno]

bro ehhehe i hope your problem has been fixed out
and now wait for the tail completed again

bless you ok :hand:

[REDCLOUD]

I see, jardin doesn't need to use black water. Sorry, exactly what for the black water is? I don't know exactly. I only knew that black water help to maintain Ph water.

Okee, i will pour a little salt more to speed up healing process. And i will keep praying:011: . Thanks bro.

BW will reduce pH because it has Tanic Acid. Coral chips or kH buffers help maintain pH.

[daniel]

What is tail biting habit ? I don't understand. Please tell me more about this habit.

Now my fish lose it's desire to eat. And so do I;( . But after I read from this forum and from the answer in this thread, I think I can calm down, because it won't die. But can you tell me how to avoid some thing like this happen in the future, because I gonna more stress if this thing happen to SR Aro. Thanks.

I do not know the reason for tail biting but it happened when the aro is stressed.

Check your water parameters especially your tank is a new tank. Get some tester to test up the ammonia, nitrites and nitrates since your tank may not be cycled and the aro is stressed with the high ammonia.

[monnieva]

your aro may have jumped...dont worry it will heal by itself...

[robinng]

much worried=much panic.. don't worry,it needs times to recover!

[REDCLOUD]

So how is your Jardin doing bro? :what: :what:

All well I hope :)

[Principal]

Always check your water parameters......

[ferry_yanto]

So how is your Jardin doing bro?

All well I hope

Now, it's better than yesterday. I gave 6 jangkrik everyday, 1 each eat time. I hope it will be heal soon. Now, my aro swimmed in the half of the tank. First time it swimmed on the top of the water surface. Thanks for all of this site member, you are very care and help to my aro even it didn't a SR aro. Thanks

[REDCLOUD]

Now, it's better than yesterday. I gave 6 jangkrik everyday, 1 each eat time. I hope it will be heal soon. Now, my aro swimmed in the half of the tank. First time it swimmed on the top of the water surface. Thanks for all of this site member, you are very care and help to my aro even it didn't a SR aro. Thanks

an aro is still an aro.

Does not matter if it's not a SR/MG/XB

enjoy the hobby :003:

[daniel]

Now, it's better than yesterday. I gave 6 jangkrik everyday, 1 each eat time. I hope it will be heal soon. Now, my aro swimmed in the half of the tank. First time it swimmed on the top of the water surface. Thanks for all of this site member, you are very care and help to my aro even it didn't a SR aro. Thanks

Great that your aro is doing well.

[ferry_yanto]

I have red a book about aro, it said that if we give shrimp to aro continously, it will cause the eye desease. Because the shrimp will always in the base of aqua, so aro will always look down. Is it true ?

[REDCLOUD]

I have red a book about aro, it said that if we give shrimp to aro continously, it will cause the eye desease. Because the shrimp will always in the base of aqua, so aro will always look down. Is it true ?

That depends on your aro as well.

Some aros likes to look down more others don't really care.

The problem that you are reffring to is Drop Eye or Slant Eye. Where the eyes seems to be droping down / dropping

DE / SE has been link to many things
1. Genetics
2. Fatty tissue deposit at eyes ( due to fatty foods)
3. Aro Behaviour
4. Infection
5. Enviroment

[GrandePunto]

That depends on your aro as well.

Some aros likes to look down more others don't really care.

The problem that you are reffring to is Drop Eye or Slant Eye. Where the eyes seems to be droping down / dropping

DE / SE has been link to many things
1. Genetics
2. Fatty tissue deposit at eyes ( due to fatty foods)
3. Aro Behaviour
4. Infection
5. EnviromentDrop eye nevermind..only the Plj many people mind lol

[REDCLOUD]

Drop eye nevermind..only the Plj many people mind lol

I think DE not that nice to view. PLJ on the hand still can be accepted.

the best is still minimum of both cases

Just my newbie thiking :022:

[ferry_yanto]

PLJ on the hand still can be accepted.

What the mean of PLJ ??

Now my aro keep open and close continously its mouth, also didn't want to eat. What happened with it ? Why it can be happened and how to avoid it ? THanks a lot

[REDCLOUD]

What the mean of PLJ ??

Now my aro keep open and close continously its mouth, also didn't want to eat. What happened with it ? Why it can be happened and how to avoid it ? THanks a lot

PLJ = Protruding Lower Jaw that is when your aros mouth looks like popeyes mounth.

[REDCLOUD]

What the mean of PLJ ??

Now my aro keep open and close continously its mouth, also didn't want to eat. What happened with it ? Why it can be happened and how to avoid it ? THanks a lot

I think you water parameters are really out.

What is the current pH?

Do you have a air stone in your tank?

[ferry_yanto]

I think you water parameters are really out.

What is the current pH?

Do you have a air stone in your tank?

The current pH is about 7 - 7.5
I use two little air stone in my aqua.

[ferry_yanto]

My aro only ate 4 jangkrik yesterday. Ooooo, is it the effect while my aro keep open and close its mouth continously?

[REDCLOUD]

The current pH is about 7 - 7.5
I use two little air stone in my aqua.

Some cases if the O2 level is too low an aro will start to close and open it's mouth to try and pump more O2 over the gills.

but usually the main cause if due to water parameters.

What about temperature of your tank? is it between 28 - 30 C.

Temperature may also affect the level of diluted O2

also what kind of filter system are you using?

lastly are there any bubbles forming on the water surface?

[REDCLOUD]

My aro only ate 4 jangkrik yesterday. Ooooo, is it the effect while my aro keep open and close its mouth continously?

Does your aro open and close the mouth only after feeding or even before feeding? :what:

Sometimes if aros ate too much they will open and close they mouth to breath harder.

[ferry_yanto]

lastly are there any bubbles forming on the water surface?

Yes there are.


Does your aro open and close the mouth only after feeding or even before feeding?

Everytime. My aro keep open and close its mouth slowly, not like to take a deep breath. And now my aro sometime swims in the middle of the aqua. Sometime till the base of the aqua.

My water temp about 31 C. Because my house is really hot. ;( .

[REDCLOUD]

Yes there are.



Everytime. My aro keep open and close its mouth slowly, not like to take a deep breath. And now my aro sometime swims in the middle of the aqua. Sometime till the base of the aqua.

My water temp about 31 C. Because my house is really hot. ;( .

When bubles form on the surface ( I am talking about white big bubbles) It's a sign that your water Quality is bad. Usually High Ammnonia or High Protein Build up. You should do a 20 -30% Water change. Top up with Aged water.

31C is a bit high boss. Maybe you have to invest in a PC fan to cool down the tank.

[ferry_yanto]

When bubles form on the surface ( I am talking about white big bubbles) It's a sign that your water Quality is bad. Usually High Ammnonia or High Protein Build up. You should do a 20 -30% Water change. Top up with Aged water.

31C is a bit high boss. Maybe you have to invest in a PC fan to cool down the tank.


Ooo. I see. I will change the water ASAP.
I just thinking to use a minifan to cool down the aqua temp. THanks

[REDCLOUD]

So any updates on your aro bro ferry_yanto?

Again I hope it's doing well.

[REDCLOUD]

Ooo. I see. I will change the water ASAP.
I just thinking to use a minifan to cool down the aqua temp. THanks

Good luck bro. :up: :up:

try and use aged water to reduce the stress on your aro.

[ferry_yanto]

Until today my aro didn't ate anything. Yesterday I gave a jangkrik, it didn't ate it. Then I try to give frozen bloody worm. Amazing, when I threw the worm, on a second my aro ate it. But it didn't ate too much. Only a quarter block of the worm.

What is it mean ? Thanks

[REDCLOUD]

Until today my aro didn't ate anything. Yesterday I gave a jangkrik, it didn't ate it. Then I try to give frozen bloody worm. Amazing, when I threw the worm, on a second my aro ate it. But it didn't ate too much. Only a quarter block of the worm.

What is it mean ? Thanks

possibilities.

1. Your aro don't like the taste of crickets
2. Your aro thinks that crickets are too hard or maybe it's not really ready for crickets
3. Your aro is bored of crickets.

try giving different types of food. and try to feed lesser crickets. Maybe just 2 instead of 4. you can also try feeding meal worms, feeder fish (small gold fish or koi)

it's better to feed a little at a time instead of stuffing your aro.

[morphine]

Bro Ferry_Yanto, just check your water parameters . Pay a closed attention to ammonia, and nitrite in your tank (these two should be 0) . Your tank's pH as you had indicated is around 7-7.5, don't adjust the pH, just let it be for now, since your aro has been in it and probably is used to the pH . Just observe your aro behavior . If it's still swimming about its tank as usual, leave it alone . It just broke its tail ,give it sometimes to rest and recover . If it want to eat, give it some foods, if it doesn't want to eat, that's okay too . Your aro is not going to starve itself to death . It will eat when it wants to eat .

As long as your tank' water parameter are okay, and your fish is still swimming about it tank, things will take care of themselves . The best thing you could do right now for yourself and your aro is to keep things simple, don't try to do too much, the more you try, the more you and your aro will stress out .

[daniel]

Bro Ferry_Yanto, just check your water parameters . Pay a closed attention to ammonia, and nitrite in your tank (these two should be 0) . Your tank's pH as you had indicated is around 7-7.5, don't adjust the pH, just let it be for now, since your aro has been in it and probably is used to the pH . Just observe your aro behavior . If it's still swimming about its tank as usual, leave it alone . It just broke its tail ,give it sometimes to rest and recover . If it want to eat, give it some foods, if it doesn't want to eat, that's okay too . Your aro is not going to starve itself to death . It will eat when it wants to eat .

As long as your tank' water parameter are okay, and your fish is still swimming about it tank, things will take care of themselves . The best thing you could do right now for yourself and your aro is to keep things simple, don't try to do too much, the more you try, the more you and your aro will stress out .

Well said. I always feel that bro Ferry_Yanto's tank is not properly cycled. Add some benifical bacteria formula into your filter to shorten the cycling time.

[ferry_yanto]

Thanks for all the attention and advices. Now I feed my aro with little fish like golden fish. And my aro ate it. But I heard if you feed with little fish continously it will cause your aro has a dropeye desease. Is it true ? THanks.

Yesterday I changed 30% water on my tank. :003:

[daniel]

Thanks for all the attention and advices. Now I feed my aro with little fish like golden fish. And my aro ate it. But I heard if you feed with little fish continously it will cause your aro has a dropeye desease. Is it true ? THanks.

Yesterday I changed 30% water on my tank. :003:

Goldfish will but not guppies and mollies.

[REDCLOUD]

Goldfish will but not guppies and mollies.

Err.. bro Gold Fish if fed to much might cause DE due to high fat.

[REDCLOUD]

Thanks for all the attention and advices. Now I feed my aro with little fish like golden fish. And my aro ate it. But I heard if you feed with little fish continously it will cause your aro has a dropeye desease. Is it true ? THanks.

Yesterday I changed 30% water on my tank. :003:

That's good news. Try feeding baby Koi. Baby gold fish are okay but don't feed too much.

[daniel]

Err.. bro Gold Fish if fed to much might cause DE due to high fat.

Yap, I said that.

[REDCLOUD]

Yap, I said that.

Sorry bro I read wrongly :003: :kekeke:

[daniel]

Sorry bro I read wrongly :003: :kekeke:

No problem. Be careful when feeding feeders. As some aro are very excited when they are chasing the feeders, the barbels may be break easily if knocked against the tank wall.

[ferry_yanto]

OOoo, I understood now. I will make a schedule to feed my aro. Maybe one week with cricket, one week with goldfish, one week with shrimp and one week with mollies or guppies. I will observe it's attitude and activity. Thanks.

[REDCLOUD]

OOoo, I understood now. I will make a schedule to feed my aro. Maybe one week with cricket, one week with goldfish, one week with shrimp and one week with mollies or guppies. I will observe it's attitude and activity. Thanks.

That is a good practice :up: :up:

[ferry_yanto]

Last night I feed my aro with SW and braid. And my Aro looks like it love it so much.:011: . Today my aro had ate 3 goldfish. And the tail recovered

[daniel]

Last night I feed my aro with SW and braid. And my Aro looks like it love it so much.:011: . Today my aro had ate 3 goldfish. And the tail recovered

Good to hear that.

[morphine]

Last night I feed my aro with SW and braid. And my Aro looks like it love it so much.:011: . Today my aro had ate 3 goldfish. And the tail recovered

Good new comes at last . Good job bro ferry_yanto . Wishing your aro a speedy recovery .

[REDCLOUD]

Last night I feed my aro with SW and braid. And my Aro looks like it love it so much.:011: . Today my aro had ate 3 goldfish. And the tail recovered

Happy 4 u :003: :003:

[ferry_yanto]

THank you so much. I really2 love my aro now, even only a jardini. Maybe it because I took care of it everyday.:kekeke:

[daniel]

THank you so much. I really2 love my aro now, even only a jardini. Maybe it because I took care of it everyday.:kekeke:

Your jardini will reward you with all the joy of keeping aro for your effort.

[ferry_yanto]

Wooww, have not online for a long time. 3 days ago my aro had recovered its tail. I very2 happy. Now it looks like nothing strange with my aro, everything normal now. :011:

Thanks for every member in this forum. Without you, maybe my aro wouldn't recovered this soon. :003:

[REDCLOUD]

Wooww, have not online for a long time. 3 days ago my aro had recovered its tail. I very2 happy. Now it looks like nothing strange with my aro, everything normal now. :011:

Thanks for every member in this forum. Without you, maybe my aro wouldn't recovered this soon. :003:


Good to know.